Comments on: An Open Letter to the Church Lady Who Yelled at My Mom https://catholicallyear.com/blog/an-open-letter-to-church-lady-who/ Homemaking. Homeschooling. Catholic Life. Wed, 29 Nov 2023 22:07:45 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.8 By: Suzie @ Orate Fratres Designs https://catholicallyear.com/blog/an-open-letter-to-church-lady-who/#comment-195344 Sun, 13 Feb 2022 17:35:51 +0000 https://skymouse.wpengine.com/2013/01/03/an-open-letter-to-church-lady-who/#comment-195344 I’m back here again after An Incident at our church today. A young man (known to be what we call a confirmed bachelor) told off the only other young family that comes to our fancy smells and bells church. They’re pretty new and I know they were embarrassed already by their 2yo wandering around and talking loudly (they have him and a baby) compared to our 4yo, 2yo and newborn who admittedly behave really well at the moment. I only found out about it after that family left, but the young man was idiot enough to brag about it (!!!) to our priest who was absolutely furious with him. I really really really hope that family comes back next week so we or the priest can counteract the horrible things he said to them.

We’re going through a really good phase with our kids in church at the moment, plus our eldest is quite a quiet person and our second tends to copy him a lot, so it looks like we are magical super parents but we are really NOT. We have had some hellish masses and I’m sure we will again when the newborn gets less sleepy. And honestly, we’re just lucky with church – our kids for some reason get out their bad behaviour at different times.

I find it bizarre that the Church Ladies and cross young men seem to think that the parents have the power to magically switch their children off but just can’t be bothered to exercise it. In my experience, parents are excruciatingly and even excessively aware of the noise and disturbance their children are making and are engaged in a constant balancing act of what’s likely to cause the least bother to everyone else. Sometimes correcting a behaviour in the moment will actually cause MORE noise when the child flips out about it. We let our 2yo potter round the pew and talk to herself because that is way less disturbing than her SCREAMING because we had a strict silent shushing policy. If it were that easy to make them still and silent, don’t ya think we’d just do it?

But I always think: if not now, when? There has to be a time when kids are learning by practicing how to behave in church and appreciate it. You can do it from birth or when they’re grumpy teenagers or any time in between, but in my opinion it’s best to just make it part of their life from the very beginning. Otherwise you end up trying to force someone to “boring” church who knows there’s another option and is invested in resisting parental authority, but isn’t small enough to be physically restrained! 🙂

Also, what else am I supposed to do? Leave em home alone?! Not go to church for… well, four years and counting! Forbidding small children from church contributes to the culture of death that says that reproducing women and their children are not part of normal everyday life. If I have to put my life on hold until my youngest child is seven, contraception starts to look like the only solution, doesn’t it?

My husband and I discussed angry church young man all the way home. We’re going to pray for him tonight with the kids. And the family.

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By: Suzie @ Orate Fratres Designs https://catholicallyear.com/blog/an-open-letter-to-church-lady-who/#comment-195343 Sun, 13 Feb 2022 17:33:31 +0000 https://skymouse.wpengine.com/2013/01/03/an-open-letter-to-church-lady-who/#comment-195343 I’m back here again after An Incident at our church today. A young man (known to be what we call a confirmed bachelor) told off the only other young family that comes to our fancy smells and bells church. They’re pretty new and I know they were embarrassed already by their 2yo wandering around and talking loudly (they have him and a baby) compared to our 4yo, 2yo and newborn who admittedly behave really well at the moment. I only found out about it after that family left, but the young man was idiot enough to brag about it (!!!) to our priest who was absolutely furious with him. I really really really hope that family comes back next week so we or the priest can counteract the horrible things he said to them.

We’re going through a really good phase with our kids in church at the moment, plus our eldest is quite a quiet person and our second tends to copy him a lot, so it looks like we are magical super parents but we are really NOT. We have had some hellish masses and I’m sure we will again when the newborn gets less sleepy. And honestly, we’re just lucky with church – our kids for some reason get out their bad behaviour at different times.

I find it bizarre that the Church Ladies and cross young men seem to think that the parents have the power to magically switch their children off but just can’t be bothered to exercise it. In my experience, parents are excruciatingly and even excessively aware of the noise and disturbance their children are making and are engaged in a constant balancing act of what’s likely to cause the least bother to everyone else. Sometimes correcting a behaviour in the moment will actually cause MORE noise when the child flips out about it. We let our 2yo potter round the pew and talk to herself because that is way less disturbing than her SCREAMING because we had a strict silent shushing policy. If it were that easy to make them still and silent, don’t ya think we’d just do it?

But I always think: if not now, when? There has to be a time when kids are learning by practicing how to behave in church and appreciate it. You can do it from birth or when they’re grumpy teenagers or any time in between, but in my opinion it’s best to just make it part of their life from the very beginning. Otherwise you end up trying to force someone to “boring” church who knows there’s another option and is invested in resisting parental authority, but isn’t small enough to be physically restrained! 🙂

Also, what else am I supposed to do? Leave em home alone?! Not go to church for… well, four years and counting!

My husband and I discussed angry church young man all the way home. We’re going to pray for him tonight with the kids. And the family.

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By: Kendra https://catholicallyear.com/blog/an-open-letter-to-church-lady-who/#comment-157026 Sat, 27 Nov 2021 13:27:38 +0000 https://skymouse.wpengine.com/2013/01/03/an-open-letter-to-church-lady-who/#comment-157026 In reply to chandlerjhocking.

I did.

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By: chandlerjhocking https://catholicallyear.com/blog/an-open-letter-to-church-lady-who/#comment-156722 Fri, 26 Nov 2021 22:24:57 +0000 https://skymouse.wpengine.com/2013/01/03/an-open-letter-to-church-lady-who/#comment-156722 Who wrote this blog post, Kendra?

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By: Kendra https://catholicallyear.com/blog/an-open-letter-to-church-lady-who/#comment-47609 Fri, 10 Apr 2020 15:05:02 +0000 https://skymouse.wpengine.com/2013/01/03/an-open-letter-to-church-lady-who/#comment-47609 In reply to Mike.

Nice! I really do think that would be a good idea to explore, to create a smaller space for parishioners who prefer silent worship, and accept the noise of families trying their best in the main sanctuary. 🙂

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By: Mike https://catholicallyear.com/blog/an-open-letter-to-church-lady-who/#comment-47533 Fri, 10 Apr 2020 12:16:29 +0000 https://skymouse.wpengine.com/2013/01/03/an-open-letter-to-church-lady-who/#comment-47533 A priest once commented during mass that if the crying/screaming children were offending anyone then there is a quiet room to his left they (the offended) could use.

Happy Easter everyone…

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By: The Myth of Me-Time - Catholic All Year https://catholicallyear.com/blog/an-open-letter-to-church-lady-who/#comment-44333 Thu, 19 Mar 2020 18:27:03 +0000 https://skymouse.wpengine.com/2013/01/03/an-open-letter-to-church-lady-who/#comment-44333 […] Daily Mass (even with its occasional frustrations) and prayer before the rest of the kids are up make a big difference in my reservoir […]

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By: My Favorite Parenting Books - Catholic All Year https://catholicallyear.com/blog/an-open-letter-to-church-lady-who/#comment-44326 Thu, 19 Mar 2020 17:20:59 +0000 https://skymouse.wpengine.com/2013/01/03/an-open-letter-to-church-lady-who/#comment-44326 […] can still surprise me, and each one is different of course.  One, in particular, is especially noisy.  But mostly, I feel like I know what’s coming, and how to handle it when it […]

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By: Amy https://catholicallyear.com/blog/an-open-letter-to-church-lady-who/#comment-31859 Fri, 31 May 2019 01:43:51 +0000 https://skymouse.wpengine.com/2013/01/03/an-open-letter-to-church-lady-who/#comment-31859 In reply to Kendra.

Nope

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By: Kendra https://catholicallyear.com/blog/an-open-letter-to-church-lady-who/#comment-31825 Thu, 30 May 2019 16:58:40 +0000 https://skymouse.wpengine.com/2013/01/03/an-open-letter-to-church-lady-who/#comment-31825 In reply to Amy.

I’m so sorry you experienced this! But it sounds like you won’t be scared off either!

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